Logitech G 945-000003 Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System 945-000003

The springs are smooth to pull, push, twist and bend along with a really satisfying clicky trigger. This is imo, the best all round joystick for Star-citizen, Elite, Squadrons and War-thunder. The safety missile switch is a really fun touch too! If you're looking for you're first HOTAS for any of the above mentioned games, I urge you to get this one over ANY others, it's price point, quality and usability are a perfect balance of all the best aspects of other HOTAS sticks. Also, the precision is unmatched from the other sticks I've used! Lastly - glowy lights, pretty....

I like the construction, everything feels robust and it is a big step-up in build from my creaky old T-flight HOTAS (that was more than good enough to get me to Elite combat status). The interconnecting cable is long which gives me more freedom for controller placement with larger keyboards. It is more erogonomic , easier to reach buttons. It has a display which I use to check the correct configuration is loaded. Almost all buttons can have their colour configured (either red, amber, green) and global brightness can be adjusted. Windows 11 installs driver automatically , and its in the properties that you adjust dead zones, set button colours. It has a few gotchas that prevent me giving it 5 stars, things that for the price I did not expect to see: 1. If I power-up my PC with it plugged in, the X52 does not startup correctly - the button LEDs light-up but the display is blank and teh driver isnt loaded. I must unplug then plug it back in when Windows is up. 2. If it is plugged in it will sometimes conflict with mouse operations on the windows desktop. This is probably solvable but I havent found the solution yet,. 3. The configuration app is not very user friendly and poorly documented - there are some good post on reddit that help. I cant see how to load a button configuration automatically, I must select my elite settings from the docked app. 4. The thrust control is notched at around 25% and 75%, this gets in the way of smooth operation. I read of people modifying it. I would have preferred a middle dedent for zero-thrust like my old HOTAS. 5. The default button configuration uses some buttons for profile selection (a feature no one seesm to use), this is confusing and conflicts with Elite configurations. You must use the X52 Pro app to change the mode of operation. 6. Make sure you download the X52 Pro button app and not the X52 app and have a web-browser handy!

I read a lot of bad reviews about how these units seem to fail pretty quickly. I've deliberately held off posting a review about it until now, to give me plenty of time to put it through it's paces. It's worth noting at this point that I did void the warranty within a week of unboxing it. I bought this primarily for use with flight simulators, which meant I had to get rid of two things, both of which I had researched and planned before even buying the product: 1) The centring spring on the stick; 2) The throttle detent. Depending on what you want to use this product for, the setup out of the box may be suitable for you. For me, however, a self-centring joystick is unrealistic for flight simulators, especially when the centring spring has heavy tension and is not adjustable. So I removed it completely. With the throttle (in my case, used primarily as the collective lever for helicopter simulation), it had a nasty detent which prevented smooth, precise input required during flight, especially hovering. These mods are easy to do and the details can be easily found online through various forums. Bear in mind that ANY modification WILL void your warranty! Now onto the important stuff. I've clocked up around 200 hours of usage on this product, and it's still going as strong as the day I unboxed it. The build quality is great and is as to expected with any other Logitech product, and the ergonomics feel comfortable and natural. Anyone planning long sessions using this product should be able to do so without worrying about fatigue or aches and pains. All of the buttons and switches are within easy reach, and it doesn't take long to get used to their respective positions, so you can find them easily even if you happen to be wearing a VR headset. The Logitech profiling software could really use a HUGE update to make it simpler and easier to use. Again, searching online for tips and advice was the way forward for me, as the software really lacks any sort of help or guidance regarding it's usage. Ultimately, this product continues to perform above and beyond my initial expectations. It's precise, it's responsive, and I don't think it's possible to run out of fingertip control with the huge array of buttons and switches available. It's completely transformed my flight simulation experience!

I have high hopes for this hotas system after being let down by the normal x52 which between the first and replacement system only lasted 20ish days in total. So onto the review.. The x52pro feels so much better and smoother than any hotas I have used in the past (t16k and x52), the styling and build quality far surpasses that of the normal x52. The buttons are cast metal and the plastic doesn't feel cheap. When I plugged it into the pc it recognises it as a saitek x52pro and not Logitech which means since Logitech took over they haven't played around with it too much (which is a good thing). All in all, I am hoping that this hotas lasts for a good few years and doesn't fail on me. Will update the review if anything changes

My old Saitek Cyborg Evo finally gave up the ghost so it was time to replace it with something new. I definitely wanted a joystick with a Z rotation and having read many reviews after some deliberation (as the comments were mixed) I decided to go with the Logitech branded X52 Pro. I did ensure that I got the Logitech rather than the older Saitek version which has had some very poor reviews. The two units are mainly plastic but feel robust and the cable that joins them seems to be good quality. On plugging into a USB port the drivers are automatically downloaded and you’re ready to go. There is some software as well that you can download but I haven’t bothered with it as the units already have more buttons than I need. The joystick action has a nice light feel which I particularly like, the button placement is good and being lit with LED’s you can change the colour and intensity. With deadzones set to 0 I couldn’t see any evidence of drift from the properties page but running in X4 Foundations with zero deadzone there was an almost imperceptible drift on the X axis. Upping to 1% in X4 Foundations stopped it but it was really not enough to worry me in first place. The throttle is a little stiffer than I would like ideally. There is an adjustment wheel which helps but it doesn’t seem to make a huge amount of difference. I soon got used to it though as the action is very smooth. The lower detent seems mainly imperceptible, the upper one is noticeable which I quite like though it’s not to everyone’s taste. Again there are a number of buttons, well placed on the handle and a MFD display that I don’t see the point of myself, but if you’re in MS Flight Sim it’s probably very useful. The units also come with some rubber sucker feet to hold the units in place on a desktop. I found I didn’t need them myself as the units are quite large and stable but if you’re someone that twists and turns a lot when you play a combat sim then no doubt you would find them useful. I have been very pleased indeed with both these units and would certainly recommend them based on my experience with them so far

Don't buy!!! If you're on a limited budget..... Just save up another month or so and purchase the vkb nxt evo, or the warthog. Terrible product. A 20 Yr old product from saitek, bought out by logitech.... And all they changed was the colour. Potentiometers for scroll wheels and sliders are very noisy electronically, so can't really be used in game without causing massive issues. Stick itself is very loose and inaccurate. Everytime you want to use this, you have to recalibrate it. Stick movement is very coarse and grinds a lot. Buttons are very loose and flimsy, screen on the throttle blinks everyone You click something This product looks great, but due to no product development..... Its terrible. Unusable for dcs certainly. Amazon did offer me a full refund after returns window had closed however, so amazon offered good support.

At the price of £125 it's very reasonable. I paid £170 two years ago. I use it for Elite Dangerous. This is a pretty good HOTAS if you don't need great accuracy. Just flying around and using gimballed weapons it's perfectly fine. If you need to get more accurate with fixed weapons I'm afraid this stick is not going to cut it

This HOTAS replaced my second X52 Pro from the pre-Logitech era. The second one had lasted nearly 18 months, better than the 3 months of the first one. They do have a reputation for having poor build quality, and my experience bore that out, so why would I buy a third? Firstly, because I was given a full refund when I returned the broken one to Amazon UK. So financially I wasn't loosing out. Secondly, for all it's poor reliability record the X52 Pro is ideal for playing Elite Dangerous. It has enough buttons (although I still need to use the pinky switch to double up a lot of buttons). I can play all night, including wing combat (so selecting wingman and then switching to their target) all regular flying, landing, menu navigation... and I don't have to touch a keyboard unless I need to type (so to search a system in the system map or respond to text chat. For Elite Dangerous it's fantastic. My only concern is that now my four year-old is using it to fly his Asp Explorer I might be advised to keep a spare handy, he's a little stronger handed than me which is worrying. Thirdly, it's size. I've tried a TM Warthog and it's huge. My hands are small and I just couldn't get on with the Warthog over the weekend I borrowed it. The X55/X56 is bigger than the X52 Pro and I've heard friends describe it as a big stick, so that's not an option. Since Logitech have bought Saitek I think the space-sim community is hoping that they produce a new HOTAS product that has improved quality and suits the needs of flying in space. Until then, I'll keep replacing my broken X52 Pros with more X52 pros.